FHC on Lula: "He's hegemonic, he wants everything"
In a new interview, former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso explains why he and former president Lula, who were once close, have never been able to reconcile; "Lula is hegemonic, he wants to take control of everything. And who does someone who wants to take control of everything want to crush? Their main adversary," he says; according to FHC, "there's no way to reach an agreement"; for Lula, FHC allowed himself to be won over by the right wing.
247 - In another interview given this weekend, this time to journalists Alexa Salomão, Gabriel Manzano, and Ricardo Grinbaum, former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso touches on a point that intrigues many historians: why did he and Lula, who were once close, never reconcile? Or, in other words, why was a partnership between the PT and PSDB, instead of the two parties aligned with more opportunistic political groups, never possible?
Here's what FHC said:
"What's lacking is his will. He's hegemonic, he wants to control everything. And who does someone who wants to control everything want to crush? The main adversary! When we transitioned from my government to his, they immediately defined the PSDB as the enemy. It wasn't an adversary, it was an enemy. On the same day, they spoke of a cursed legacy. It's hegemonic: 'I am everything. The world begins with me, I am good, the others are bad.' This is a game, there's no way to make a deal."
In a 1997 interview with journalist Augusto Nunes, former president Lula defines FHC (Fernando Henrique Cardoso) as a leader who allowed himself to be swayed by the right wing and explains why he refused to join the PT (Workers' Party). (Recall:)