"Bolsonaro 'spoke softly' to Marcola, leader of the PCC, in 2001," says Joaquim de Carvalho (video); understand.
Researcher Rodrigo Cassis retrieved a 2001 audio recording of a conversation between Bolsonaro and Marcola: "The day I become dictator of this country, we will solve this problem."
247 - Researcher and writer Rodrigo Cassis, who has written five books about Jair Bolsonaro (PL), unearthed an audio recording, dated August 21, 2001, in which the current occupant of the Palácio do Planalto (Presidential Palace), at the time a federal deputy, speaks with Marco Willian Herbas Camacho, known as Marcola, leader of the criminal faction PCC. In the audio, Bolsonaro defends the death penalty and says verbatim: "The day I become dictator of this country, we will solve this problem. You can be sure of that. Democratically, we will never solve it. It's like pouring water on a wet surface."
“In 2001, Bolsonaro and Marcola faced off at an event in Congress. I analyzed it, and my interpretation is that Marcola came out on top against Bolsonaro. The then-congressman spoke for three and a half minutes compared to the PCC leader's 55 seconds. Bolsonaro used his time to make jokes and elicit laughter from Marcola,” Cassis says in the video.
The journalist Joaquim de Carvalho published a report in TV 247 in which he analyzes the audios released by the researcher and observes that the pro-gun policy of the Bolsonaro government facilitated access to firearms and ammunition by organized crime, including militias.
"Another one who claims to be ruthless with organized crime is Sergio Moro, who was the inspector of federal prisons in Paraná, and under his jurisdiction, a case of privileges granted to a kingpin of organized crime was denounced by Folha de S. Paulo. Reporter José Maschio showed that in the Catanduvas federal prison, built by Lula, a maximum-security facility, Fernandinho Beira Mar had privileges," says Joaquim in the report. "It's clear that Moro went easy on Fernandinho Beira Mar," the journalist says later on.
"It is important to emphasize that the discourse of combating organized crime does not withstand the facts that occurred within the scope of the actions of the two," Joaquim points out, referring to the former judge under suspicion and Jair Bolsonaro.
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