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Taxi drivers and Uber supporters exchange boos at hearing.

The proposed regulation of passenger transportation via apps, such as Uber, was debated in a public hearing at the Gigantinho arena with reinforced security, but without any reported disturbances or confusion. However, the discussion was marked by disagreements between taxi drivers and Uber drivers and supporters, with arguments on one side about the illegal and multinational nature of the company, opposing calls for greater market freedom and arguments about the quality of services. The bill drafted by the Executive branch establishes a series of rules for the company to operate legally.

The proposed regulation of passenger transportation via apps, such as Uber, was debated in a public hearing at Gigantinho with a reinforced security system, but without any disturbances or confusion; however, the discussion was marked by disagreements between taxi drivers and Uber drivers and supporters, with arguments on one side about the illegal and multinational nature of the company, in opposition to requests for greater market freedom and arguments about the quality of services; the bill prepared by the Executive establishes a series of rules for the company to operate legally (Photo: Leonardo Lucena)

Deborah Fogliatto, On the 21 - The proposal to regulate passenger transport by apps, such as Uber, was debated in a public hearing at Gigantinho on Tuesday night (5), with a reinforced security system, but without registering any disturbances or confusion. The discussion, however, was marked by disagreements between taxi drivers and Uber drivers and supporters, with arguments on one side about the illegal and multinational nature of the company, in opposition to requests for greater market freedom and arguments about the quality of services. The bill prepared by the Executive establishes a series of rules for the company to operate legally.

Among the requirements is that driver data be made available to the City Hall, in addition to the collection of taxes at higher rates than those levied on taxi drivers. The proposal includes a monthly fee per vehicle, payable by the company, of R$ 182,50, and a 5% tax rate on Services of Any Nature (ISS) based on its revenue. Another requirement is that registered vehicles must have license plates from Porto Alegre.

During the hearing, ten people defended Uber and ten opposed it, following explanations given by the president of the Public Transportation and Circulation Company (EPTC), Vanderlei Cappellari. Starting at 18 PM, an hour before the scheduled time, taxi drivers were already arriving at the stands, holding signs with slogans such as "no to illegal taxis" and "no to the extinction of taxis." Many wore blue shirts, a color that had been designated as the uniform for taxi drivers, but whose use ultimately did not become law. On the opposing side, proponents of the app-based transportation system called for "more modern cities" and "less state intervention, more freedom."

Uber's Government Relations Manager, Gabriel Petrus, stated that the company agrees with most of the points raised in the bill. "Uber doesn't compete with taxis; the real competitor is the private car. Its objective is to promote efficiency gains for existing cars, which here, as in the rest of the world, are underutilized. Therefore, the supply of services should be freely balanced according to the population's choice," he argued. During his speech, the taxi drivers present turned their backs to the stage, demonstrating their disagreement with what was being said.

Both proponents and opponents of Uber booed the opposing side throughout the speeches, which included arguments addressing the Constitution, personal freedoms, "wild" capitalism, Brazilian nationalism in the face of an American company, class differences, and accusations from both sides that the others were victims of "slave labor." The discussion lasted about three hours, mediated by the president of the City Council, Cássio Trogildo (PTB), who proposed the debate.

An Uber driver highlighted the empowering aspect of the possibility of supplementing her income, which she, like other women, has had since the app arrived. She said that she used to drive a lot and knew the city well, which she is now using for work. “There’s no price that can pay for the smile of a passenger who gets into an Uber car. I do this work with the greatest joy and pride. Doing a job for many years is no guarantee that it will be done in a better way. I want the city to move in a better way, to contribute to mobility,” she stated.

Taxi driver Paulo Adir Ferreira stated that the Constitution provides for freedom, but religious freedom, not business freedom. “The country's authorities are not enforcing it; it's unacceptable that a country allows the federal taxi law to be ignored. And it's unacceptable that the City Hall is negotiating with this veritable sect that comes from abroad and has problems in every country it goes through, and respects no one,” he said. Similarly, Jorge Eurites said he was “ashamed that Brazil is bowing down to an American company” and argued that Anatel (the Brazilian telecommunications agency) should block the app in the country.

Fellow taxi driver Antônio Carlos Abreu, known as Toninho by other taxi drivers, stated that the majority of Porto Alegre's population still uses taxis. "Our fleet carries 157 passengers in 24 hours, three times more than Uber. That's the majority of the population, not just a handful who use credit cards. We're the ones who transport the population," he asserted.

Among Uber's defenders were, in addition to drivers, representatives of movements and parties identified with the free market. Felipe Camozzato, who identified himself as a "volunteer for the Novo Party," considered that the State "enslaves taxi drivers and the population with taxes." "I share the feeling of injustice felt by taxi drivers, who are exploited by the State with illegal taxes, as well as by drivers, who are prevented from undertaking and supplementing their income," he stated.

Wendel Sobrosa Machado defended the right to free competition, allowing consumers to choose the mode of transportation they want to use. “In a market economy, the consumer is in charge; they should decide. I'm also afraid of the proposal for visual identification of drivers, because they have been harassed by taxi drivers, and this reduces their safety,” he pointed out.

For taxi driver Gabrielle Lisboa da Silva, the statements made by Uber's defenders were "nonsense," not sound arguments. "I think this is a trap, that they want to eliminate the taxi driver class and set whatever price they want. We have concessions, we need licenses to operate. We also have apps," she emphasized, referring to initiatives like Easy Taxi and 99 Taxis.

Some city councilors present at the hearing also spoke. Cláudio Janta (SD), author of a bill that prohibits Uber from operating, stated that the app has been banned in several countries and that US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton also wants to ban it if elected because, according to him, the service "promotes savage capitalism." He was loudly applauded by taxi drivers and booed by supporters of the app.

According to councilman Mauro Pinheiro (Rede), it is necessary to listen to the population and seek regulation of the new mode of transportation, as it is important that "these people are within a regulatory framework, and that taxi drivers have legal competition." Carlos Comassetto (PT) said he would defend a "transparent and agile" state, but also requested regulation of the service, while Airto Ferronato (PSB) said that "Uber is irreversible, but taxis are also indispensable for the city of Porto Alegre."

The city councilors concluded, at the end of the debate, that the discussion helped them to have the necessary information to analyze the City Hall's proposal and decide their votes regarding the regulation of individual transportation via apps.