Lula never considered reinstating the labor laws from before the reform, says former minister Luiz Marinho.

247 - In an interview with the column of Carlos Juliano Barros In an interview with UOL, former Minister of Labor and Social Security in President Lula's previous administration, Federal Deputy Luiz Marinho, discusses a possible revision of the 2017 reform, a topic raised during the election campaign.

As an example of Lula's opposition to the old labor laws, Marinho cites the mandatory union dues, which were abolished with the reform. "I see zero chance of the union tax returning," says the former minister. "What needs to happen is the creation of new legislation, based on the challenges we face today," he adds.

Asked if there is any prospect of changing the current labor laws, Marinho stated that "Lula never imagined going back to what it was" [before the 2017 reform].

Marinho criticizes the labor unions, which, according to him, "made a mistake, influenced by that segment of unions that was totally dependent on union dues. I would say today that I see zero chance of union dues returning, for example."

"So, there's no 100% revision. What needs to happen is the creation of new legislation, based on the challenges we face today. What will it be like? What will it be? It will depend on the democratic process that takes place around it. I don't see Lula, regardless of who is in the ministerial position, A, B, or C, [imposing] a process."

The former minister stated that it is necessary to consider labor union legislation in which the union truly represents the workers. "Creating the tools so that they can represent, based on the concept of freedom and autonomy. Then, workers have the free will to choose whether or not to be unionized."

Marinho also spoke about the regulation of the apps, when asked if he believes there is an employment relationship between Uber and drivers or between iFood and delivery workers. "I don't know if the CLT (Brazilian labor law) can handle it. What I do know is that it's a brutal exploitation process by these apps against the poor worker. Many times, the citizen is forced to rent a car and work 18 hours a day to see if anything is left over."

"In fact, I think we need to delve into this issue, listening to the workers as well. I don't know if any company has the sensitivity to coldly analyze a solution that offers some protection to this group of workers. It's clear that any economic activity only makes sense if it has some economic result. Nobody is saying there shouldn't be an economic result, of course. But I think the exploitation of this workforce is outrageous."

Regarding the potential nomination of his name to join Lula's government cabinet, Marinho said that if consulted, "I would suggest that I should not assume the Ministry of Labor at this time, nor the Ministry of Social Security, nor any ministry of any kind."

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